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I can't imagine a scenario where you might interact with the Jagon logo and need to know what the company does, the context of the logo will do that for you, if it's at the start of an app you are unlikely to think "I wonder if they do dry-cleaning?", if it's on a website promoting an app you are unlikely to think "I wonder, do they sell cutlery?"
I like the very first one but as mentioned above get rid of the word
So this means all the companies with "Games" as part of the company title are gonna be in trouble too?... ;-)
Hey guys, thanks for all the posts. The main reason I have 'apps' in was that one day I was hoping to move into other areas as well, eg. website design, and so Jagon Websites and Jagon Apps would be distinguishable from each other. And I always just have this feeling that I despise any brand that is not well known, and doesn't make it clear what it does on ads, logos and even their own products. I'm still in two minds though. So does everyone like the yellow more than blue in the logos?
So this means all the companies with "Games" as part of the company title are gonna be in trouble too?... ;-)
Not too sure anyone is going to get in trouble (other than looking a little dated) I was just saying that a company logo (rather than a company 'title') doesn't really need a descriptive tag like 'apps' or 'electronics' or 'food' or 'software', it feels a little old fashioned (to me at least).
Take a look at any modern logo, the overwhelming majority have abandoned these kinds of vestigial appendages, everything from GameSalad to Twitter, from Apple to Tesco, from Microsoft to Ford, sure you could argue that companies like Apple or Ford don't need their logos to read 'Apple Computers' or 'Ford Cars' because they are household names, 'Google' is practically a transitive verb these days (you won't find their logo troubled by 5pt text reading 'Search Engine'), but take a look around the internet these days and you'll see the same is true for even lesser known / unknown brands, especially so in a fixed/known market place.
Ultimately this is an aesthetic choice, It's no big deal, he is, of course, free to use 'apps' in his logo so that people buying apps on the App Store know they have bought an app because it says 'app' in the logo of the app made by the app company they bought the app from via the App Store
I despise any brand that is not well known, and doesn't make it clear what it does on ads, logos and even their own products.
If you've produced an ad that leaves your target audience unsure about what you are selling them then I don't think your logo is the problem.
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edited September 2013
So this means all the companies with "Games" as part of the company title are gonna be in trouble too?... ;-)
Not too sure anyone is going to get in trouble (other than looking a little dated) I was just saying that a company logo (rather than a company 'title') doesn't really need a descriptive tag like 'apps' or 'electronics' or 'food' or 'software', it feels a little old fashioned (to me at least).
Take a look at any modern logo, the overwhelming majority have abandoned these kinds of vestigial appendages, everything from GameSalad to Twitter, from Apple to Tesco, from Microsoft to Ford, sure you could argue that companies like Apple or Ford don't need their logos to read 'Apple Computers' or 'Ford Cars' because they are household names, 'Google' is practically a transitive verb these days (you won't find their logo troubled by 5pt text reading 'Search Engine'), but take a look around the internet these days and you'll see the same is true for even lesser known / unknown brands, especially so in a fixed/known market place.
Ultimately this is an aesthetic choice, It's no big deal, he is, of course, free to use 'apps' in his logo so that people buying apps on the App Store know they have bought an app because it says 'app' in the logo of the app made by the app company they bought the app from via the App Store
A fair opinion, @Socks, and I can see where you're coming from...I just don't see why adding "Games" or "Apps" to a company title makes it appear dated, despite your logic concerning many company names not including a type of business description... And even nowadays, new companies will have a descriptor in their titles, to be dropped many years later only when a large amount of consumers know what they make.... (Apple was Apple Computer Inc for many years, as you know, for instance).
Personally, I use "Apps" in my title (DavidGriffinApps) for the reason that I want to/have/be open to the possibility in the future to make utility and entertainment apps, food & drink, reference or productivity, etc - maybe, whatever - as well as games...(otherwise I would have called it DavidGriffinGames)... I really don't mind telling people it's about Apps... so we'll "beg to differ" there!
But hey, it's no big deal with our difference of opinion; I'm sure we won't fall out over it... :P :ar!
Thanks for all your help guys, especially @gyroscope@timolapre1998@Socks@KevinCross I really appreciate it. If you could just look one more time and say which you like best from the ones below, it would be much appreciated...
A fair opinion, @Socks, and I can see where you're coming from...I just don't see why adding "Games" or "Apps" to a company title makes it appear dated . . .
'Logo', this thread is about a logo design, rather than a company 'title'.
Simply because modern logos tend to forgo descriptive tags, whereas in the past the were more common.
. . . even nowadays, new companies will have a descriptor in their titles . . .
I am saying that a company logo (rather than a company 'title', you seem to be conflating the two) doesn't really need a descriptive tag, we are dealing with a logo here rather than a 'title', a company can be called The Victory Company of Japan Limited (or whatever) but there is little need to put any of that in the logo, they can simply use 'JVC'.
I'm also not sure about the idea that companies have descriptors and then - when well known - jettison them, I'd say that was simply the modern evolution of logos and logotypes, a move towards simplicity.
Personally, I use "Apps" in my title (DavidGriffinApps) for the reason that I want to/have/be open to the possibility in the future to make utility and entertainment apps, food & drink, reference or productivity, etc - maybe, whatever - as well as games...(otherwise I would have called it DavidGriffinGames)
Well 'DavidGriffin' is atypical as it's your name, without a descriptor there might be some confusion, but let's image there's a company called 'Griffin' (or even Jagon) and they make games for mobile devices - and at the start of each game the 'Griffin' logo sequence plays - all well and good - but they decide to expand beyond games and into productivity apps (let's imagine am online argument manager) in this scenario what advantage do you see in having the word 'apps' as part of the 'Griffin' logo sequence ?
I really don't mind telling people it's about Apps... so we'll "beg to differ" there!
I'm not saying I mind, I'm just saying I don't think it's nessecery, certainly not from any practical angle.
Yours,
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@timolapre1998 Thanks man, really appreciate it, not particularly keen on the 'retro' kinda look in this case, but would look great in another scenario! Max
gyroscopeI am here.Member, Sous Chef, PROPosts: 6,598
edited September 2013
'Logo', this thread is about a logo design, rather than a company 'title'.
Simply because modern logos tend to forgo descriptive tags, whereas in the past the were more common.
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I'm not saying I mind, I'm just saying I don't think it's nessecery, certainly not from any practical angle.
Yours,
Socks™ Poster on GameSalad forums (on the Internet) :P
Sure we're talking about logos that reflect the company name as an advert at the beginning of an app...I still think it's OK to put the name of the company as well as a graphical-only logo; or a descriptor added to the name and company graphical-only logo on a splash screen (in particular, for the logo to include the word "Apps" or "Games")... and that by doing this, helps register with the user more of what you are about...I can't see at all how this can be seen as regressive or old-fashioned, whatever...
If a company logo that's just an image or the initials only of the actual company is used as a splash advert, I can't see it registering with users half as much as with a descriptive company name... (matbe ten years later after the company has gained a "visibility".
This could spin on and on, I guess... OK, I'm not going to reply to anything more on this subject, it'll clog up this thread more...
I see other members suggesting dropping the word "Apps" and you've been given an "Awesome" for suggesting it... I'm in the small minority possibly but still, sorry, I can't be convinced otherwise there...
...still think it's OK to put a descriptor for a company log on a splash screen (in particular, for the logo to include the word "Apps" or "Games"... sorry, can't be convinced there...
Fair enough, like I say my personal preference is that it's not needed.
I see other members suggesting dropping the word "Apps" and you've been given an "Awesome" for suggesting it... I'm in the small minority possibly but still, sorry, I can't be convinced otherwise there...
You will be, in time, assimilated into our cult, you will simply be known as Griffin™.
@gyroscope Even though I'm not with @Socks, I have to say if you compromised with GriffinApps, or something like that, it would be so good, and you could have a cool head of a griffin and stuff
Ok guys, I think I better end this thread here, gone on waay too long as it is! Thanks so so much for everyones input, especially @Socks@gyroscope and @timolapre1998 it really means a lot and I will hopefully make my decision very soon **big drum roll in front of empty crowd** :P
PS Thanks @Fal01, I will give that a go, I'll probs put a saw edge on the angled A or something
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And I always just have this feeling that I despise any brand that is not well known, and doesn't make it clear what it does on ads, logos and even their own products.
I'm still in two minds though.
So does everyone like the yellow more than blue in the logos?
Take a look at any modern logo, the overwhelming majority have abandoned these kinds of vestigial appendages, everything from GameSalad to Twitter, from Apple to Tesco, from Microsoft to Ford, sure you could argue that companies like Apple or Ford don't need their logos to read 'Apple Computers' or 'Ford Cars' because they are household names, 'Google' is practically a transitive verb these days (you won't find their logo troubled by 5pt text reading 'Search Engine'), but take a look around the internet these days and you'll see the same is true for even lesser known / unknown brands, especially so in a fixed/known market place.
Ultimately this is an aesthetic choice, It's no big deal, he is, of course, free to use 'apps' in his logo so that people buying apps on the App Store know they have bought an app because it says 'app' in the logo of the app made by the app company they bought the app from via the App Store
Personally, I use "Apps" in my title (DavidGriffinApps) for the reason that I want to/have/be open to the possibility in the future to make utility and entertainment apps, food & drink, reference or productivity, etc - maybe, whatever - as well as games...(otherwise I would have called it DavidGriffinGames)... I really don't mind telling people it's about Apps... so we'll "beg to differ" there!
But hey, it's no big deal with our difference of opinion; I'm sure we won't fall out over it... :P :ar!
@JagonApps
Sorry for side-tracking your thread. :bz
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If you could just look one more time and say which you like best from the ones below, it would be much appreciated...
Simply because modern logos tend to forgo descriptive tags, whereas in the past the were more common. I am saying that a company logo (rather than a company 'title', you seem to be conflating the two) doesn't really need a descriptive tag, we are dealing with a logo here rather than a 'title', a company can be called The Victory Company of Japan Limited (or whatever) but there is little need to put any of that in the logo, they can simply use 'JVC'.
I'm also not sure about the idea that companies have descriptors and then - when well known - jettison them, I'd say that was simply the modern evolution of logos and logotypes, a move towards simplicity. Well 'DavidGriffin' is atypical as it's your name, without a descriptor there might be some confusion, but let's image there's a company called 'Griffin' (or even Jagon) and they make games for mobile devices - and at the start of each game the 'Griffin' logo sequence plays - all well and good - but they decide to expand beyond games and into productivity apps (let's imagine am online argument manager) in this scenario what advantage do you see in having the word 'apps' as part of the 'Griffin' logo sequence ? I'm not saying I mind, I'm just saying I don't think it's nessecery, certainly not from any practical angle.
Yours,
Socks™ Poster on GameSalad forums (on the Internet) :P
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If a company logo that's just an image or the initials only of the actual company is used as a splash advert, I can't see it registering with users half as much as with a descriptive company name... (matbe ten years later after the company has gained a "visibility".
This could spin on and on, I guess... OK, I'm not going to reply to anything more on this subject, it'll clog up this thread more...
I see other members suggesting dropping the word "Apps" and you've been given an "Awesome" for suggesting it... I'm in the small minority possibly but still, sorry, I can't be convinced otherwise there...
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Thanks, Max
T'is fair enough indeed, @Socks, and my personal preference is that it is... :P ;-)
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I like 8, and 2 is growing on me (despite what I said about it in a prev. post.!)
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I think you could play around with the text a bit to make it less plain and more unique.
Maybe make one of the edges jagged to play on the JAG part of your name.
If you did this to '9' that would be my pick.
It’s not a bug – it’s an undocumented feature
@Fal01 how about these?
@gyroscope fixed the 'A' on them you were annoyed about! :P
I was thinking like the jagged edge of a saw.
A visual representation of the name
It’s not a bug – it’s an undocumented feature
Thanks so so much for everyones input, especially @Socks @gyroscope and @timolapre1998 it really means a lot and I will hopefully make my decision very soon **big drum roll in front of empty crowd** :P
PS Thanks @Fal01, I will give that a go, I'll probs put a saw edge on the angled A or something
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