I am working at a hosting company and i know what "stress" can do to a server. But i'll tell you this. We've made 3 big newspaper sites that get a lot of traffic during the day. Only one of them is hosted on its own server and it can handle tons of users viewing, downloading and submitting at the same time. I highly doubt it that the GS server gets about half a million requests per month, to be that stressed out. All i have to say is that the server costs 1 (yes 1) GS Pro license value per year and it can handle all the stress with 33% CPU and 2gig ram. So please...you can easily fix this problem by sharing the 'stress' to 2-3 servers...instead of limiting any SQL queries to 100. Besides you can use caching (per day or something) to solve any extra stress. You dont have to have a live feed to the server. Common guys, the templates is the number one help for tons of users. Its your number one promoting service. The first thing anyone sees when they start using GS.
@saladstraightshooter Perhaps a place in the website where we can access all of them.... and maybe moderate the publishings..... maybe scan the code...
As a total newbie I am working through learning GameSalad and not having access to tutorials that are repeatedly referenced in the forums (Orb's line drawing tutorial for example) at first made me think the software was broken, and then make me think that the templates were no longer available due to an inactive of declining community.
I see that these things are not true, but that is the perception of one person newly diving into GameSalad. I agree with some of the others, it would be nice to have an iPhone mail-esque option to "Continue Search on Server", or to link to a webpage that houses the older templates if that is for some reason not possible.
So why don't you put them into categories,load only the category names,when you click on the category for the template you want, it populates the templates for that particular category.plus things would be easier to find,less stress on servers.
tenrdrmerMember, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-ChefPosts: 9,934
@SaladStraightShooter While that sounds like a reasonable way to bring them back temporarily Its going to be a problem rather quickly. I have noticed in the past the junk projects that people turn around and publish often are still named the same as the original demo that was used to start with. Therefor very quickly the list will again become junk. Can I ask why is the Wb team not able to place a download link back on the arcade pages for these downloadable projects? Ever since removing the download ability directly from the arcade page getting demos and templates out to the community has been a major pain. Now when I tell someone I made them something I also have to give an explanation of how they can actually get the file. When before HTML5 I could simply give a link to the demo online and they could play it and then download it.
@SSS ... I would like to take a last stab at conveying how important I think this is to be sorted correctly - for the community, but also very much for GS. User generated content - templates/demos - and forum advice/help is hugely valuable to your company. Entire businesses are based on user generated content (Facebook etc) and GS should covet/protect and encourage it so it adds to GS's 'value'. We have an extremely poor search 'feature', poor definitions page (unless I'm missing a better one), lost old forum posts and now an inability to properly share demo templates. Quite a few in the last few weeks have been amazing - rotation off center, constraining like joints etc and they were all hosted on third party download sites and once the forum post gets old will likely not be found again. Now considering that anyone is handicapped when looking for help themselves .. they ask the forum and the talents and help of the talented community are 'wasted' answering things that have been covered hundreds of times before. Thus GS is also wasting the excellent value of help members give live each day by frustrating them. I'm off my soapbox now but as a business owner (outside of my game making 'hobby') I'd like to think this is important to mention.
@SaladStraightShootersaid: Demo download from the arcade may be part of the final solution - I'll inquire to see how this could be accomplished. Arcade needs some love, to be sure.
Simple and effective solution, @SSS. I think it also solves the issue of templates ads in the forum. Many of us are probably are looking for templates to buy or download from other users because they want to understand how things work. At least it's my case. The demos always helped me a lot. Without them, as much as I have almost 2 years of experience in GS, I really feel a little lost.
I started this post almost 4 weeks ago. 4 weeks SSS. Are you hoping that the problem just goes away? Put them back on your server create a link that works and lets move on. And like greenrhyno said there are other broken links.
@simo103 Thanks! That's exactly what I'm looking for. Do you happen to have the pendulum and elastic template too? I wish they would resolve this issue first than ....
+1000 on GS resolving this ... in the past month alone numerous awesome members have created templates to help people and uploaded them to outside download sites. That valuable info if now lost/hidden in the unsearchable forum .. such a waste ...
@simo103 Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I should have done the same thing you did and compile a collection of all of the available templates. There were great examples on there to learn from. I hate for all to go to waste. Maybe someone can setup a free templates repository and make it available there.
@codemates ... no problem .. glad to help. I have been considering a web page for all the templates I have but wanted to see if GS did something first ... and the fact that they are not mine ie: is there an issue with me doing so. Perhaps someone at GS could weigh-in and/or others on their thoughts over ownership and rights etc.
tatiangMember, Sous Chef, PRO, Senior Sous-ChefPosts: 11,949
I know I'm a little late to this thread, but what about having a voting system whereby users can vote (say, 0-4 stars) for the templates that appear? And after a specified time -- maybe a week -- those that have very few votes or a low rating are taking out to make room for new templates? And the highest-rated templates could appear at/near the top? That way, all of these marvelous demos and helpful templates could be front and center for all of us.
This is so easy to fix....its been 4 months since we last talked about this.... Dont show all the templates if you cant.....but let the SEARCH function work. Common how "stressful" can the search be ? If you cant make a simple SQL search function working...then i am sorry but your hardware is for crap.
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So please...you can easily fix this problem by sharing the 'stress' to 2-3 servers...instead of limiting any SQL queries to 100. Besides you can use caching (per day or something) to solve any extra stress. You dont have to have a live feed to the server.
Common guys, the templates is the number one help for tons of users. Its your number one promoting service. The first thing anyone sees when they start using GS.
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Perhaps a place in the website where we can access all of them.... and maybe moderate the publishings..... maybe scan the code...
I see that these things are not true, but that is the perception of one person newly diving into GameSalad. I agree with some of the others, it would be nice to have an iPhone mail-esque option to "Continue Search on Server", or to link to a webpage that houses the older templates if that is for some reason not possible.
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I think it also solves the issue of templates ads in the forum. Many of us are probably are looking for templates to buy or download from other users because they want to understand how things work. At least it's my case. The demos always helped me a lot. Without them, as much as I have almost 2 years of experience in GS, I really feel a little lost.
Are you hoping that the problem just goes away?
Put them back on your server create a link that works and lets move on.
And like greenrhyno said there are other broken links.
Also, will this issue ever be resolved?
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+1000 on GS resolving this ... in the past month alone numerous awesome members have created templates to help people and uploaded them to outside download sites. That valuable info if now lost/hidden in the unsearchable forum .. such a waste ...
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Dont show all the templates if you cant.....but let the SEARCH function work.
Common how "stressful" can the search be ? If you cant make a simple SQL search function working...then i am sorry but your hardware is for crap.
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