Wizard of Oz and Peter Pan Dentist Games Coming out Next week

motorcycle boy

Been working on these two apps for a month and a half now and I finally uploaded them today. They are of course the popular dentist games that are all over the place right now. I just chose two themes I hadn't seen as of yet.

unbeatenpixel

I don't think you can use ''Peter Pan'' Like when I applied a game include name 'World Cup' apple rejected it because of fifa has rights of World Cup.Like Candy Crush exp.

motorcycle boy

@onelasttime said:
I don't think you can use ''Peter Pan'' Like when I applied a game include name 'World Cup' apple rejected it because of fifa has rights of World Cup.Like Candy Crush exp.

Both Peter Pan and Wizard of Oz are both in the public domain. I already checked that. If I made them look like any of the movies then I would be in trouble. But I made sure my artist made his own versions.

motorcycle boy

Also you can do a quick search and see that various developers have wizard of oz and peter pan apps out. You will also see that their renditions of the characters are their own. I already have these up on Google Play and Nook.

motorcycle boy

You have to realize that Wizard of Oz, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Little Mermaid, etc are not owned by MGM, Disney or any other corporation. They only own their renditions. The source material is in the public domain and you can use these well known characters as you wish as long ad you are not copying any of the movie version renditions.

gyroscope

Hi @dreichelt I really like your graphics; best of luck with your games.

P.S I didn't know dentist-type game were particularly popular - well, I learn something new every day! Is the gameplay along the lines of Dinner Dash or similar?

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P.P.S "What time is your dentist appointment?" .. "Tooth hurty"

(Sorry, had to get that out of my head... )

motorcycle boy

@gyroscope said:
Hi dreichelt I really like your graphics; best of luck with your games.

P.S I didn't know dentist-type game were particularly popular - well, I learn something new every day! Is the gameplay along the lines of Dinner Dash or similar?

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P.P.S "What time is your dentist appointment?" .. "Tooth hurty"

(Sorry, had to get that out of my head... )

Haha nice joke
I have one that's far worse though:
Q: What did the dentist say to the computer?
A: This won't hurt a byte

Thanks! Yeah my graphic artist actually works for an app company where he goes to an office and works. He has made dozens of games before me and is just plain awesome. Actually my game is pretty close to "Little Dentist" which last I checked was #50 on family. Pretty simple game play. That company has a portfolio of dentist/doctor/salon games which are worth about 7 million in total. If you search educational, family, and other areas you will see lots of these. Also popular on other stores. I have these two on Nook and Google Play so far. Amazon I am doing today just have to finish setting up IAP for that.

unbeatenpixel

@dreichelt said:
You have to realize that Wizard of Oz, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Little Mermaid, etc are not owned by MGM, Disney or any other corporation. They only own their renditions. The source material is in the public domain and you can use these well known characters as you wish as long ad you are not copying any of the movie version renditions.

I didn't know that,thanks.

Hopscotch

@dreichelt said:
You have to realize that Wizard of Oz, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Little Mermaid, etc are not owned by MGM, Disney or any other corporation. They only own their renditions.

But Disney owns the TRADEMARKs!

In fact Peter Pan, Tinkerbell, Cinderella is sooo widely trademarked in so many product categories I will be very surprised if you don't get jumped on by some toy or cosmetics company.

@dreichelt said:
The source material is in the public domain and you can use these well known characters as you wish as long ad you are not copying any of the movie version renditions.

As you say, only the original source material. You would be safer making an eBook out of the original work than using these trademarks in the title of your game.

By the way, it is still under copyright in Spain.

motorcycle boy

@Hopscotch sure I suppose it's possible for some company to contact me. However, as I stated there are tons of apps up on apple's app store from dozens of companies that use these same characters. They also have the titles in their games. On Apple there are over 100 apps with Peter Pan in the title or close to it and over 100 with Wizard of Oz. I also consulted a lawyer who said I should be fine as long as my renditions are not copying the visuals of the well known ones which they aren't. Only time will tell!

Hopscotch

@dreichelt‌, ok

Armelline

I thought that Great Ormond Street Hospital had perpetual rights to Peter Pan, but it seems that's only true of the play, not the character itself. IANAL though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_and_Wendy#United_Kingdom

You should be okay.

Hopscotch

Word Mark   PETER PAN
Goods and Services  IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment information; production and provision of entertainment and information in the field of children's entertainment, movies, music, games and activities, all on-line via a global computer network. FIRST USE: 20090409. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090409

Owner   (REGISTRANT) Disney Enterprises, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 500 South Buena Vista Street Burbank CALIFORNIA 91521

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808:v5ipao.2.4

Word Mark   PETER PAN
Goods and Services  IC 028. US 022 023 038 050. G & S: Board games; card games; bath toys; baseballs; bean bag dolls; toy building blocks; children's play cosmetics; crib toys; electric action toys; golf balls; inflatable toys; jigsaw puzzles; musical toys; party favors in the nature of small toys; toy vehicles; toy cars; toy figures; toy banks; toy trucks; wind-up toys. FIRST USE: 20080527. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090710

Owner   (REGISTRANT) Disney Enterprises, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 500 South Buena Vista Street Burbank CALIFORNIA 91521

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808:v5ipao.2.4

And this is just in the US.

motorcycle boy

Good to know however if they were exercising that in regards to apps I don't think there would be so many apps up all over with Peter Pan in the title. In any case, I'll see if Apple has any issues with it next week when they review it. Worse comes to worse I can easily alter the title. But I'm really not worried about this. There are so many companies who use Peter Pan for various products. I'm sure Disney doesn't waste their time taking all these people to court unless the work is a direct copy of their rendition. And I say again, I am certainly not the first developer to upload an app with peter pan as part of the title. Do a quick search and you will see that Apple has had no problem approving dozens upon dozens of peter pan apps.

motorcycle boy

Peter and Tink present the Neverland Dentist. Sounds quite good I think!

motorcycle boy

I'd love to see Disney try to take GOSH to court over the use of Peter Pan. If I recall not too long ago King was trying to take the rights of the original creator's rights away. I think he developed Candy Swipe two years before.

scottharrrules43

motorcycle boy

LOL awesome!

gyroscope

@scottharrrules43 said:
http:// vid ***

Haha! Get's funnier & funnier (Except the end bit- just goes to show, if you've enough money clout you can steal other people's intellectual rights and get away with it...)

gyroscope

@dreichelt said:
Peter and Tink present the Neverland Dentist. Sounds quite good I think!

Sounds good to me too! Seriously it does, I'd go with that; at least you're guaranteed of no copyright names as the other guys pointed out.

Oh, and I liked your joke too!

jamie_c

Great Video!

Armelline

@gyroscope said:
Sounds good to me too! Seriously it does, I'd go with that; at least your guaranteed of no copyright names as the other guys pointed out.

Definitely looks like a wise move. Disney don't have exclusive ownership of the name Peter Pan in video games, but that doesn't mean they won't try to stop you. This seems a good summary (note the trademark section at the bottom):

http://neverpedia.com/pan/Ownership_of_the_Peter_Pan_works

Hopscotch

Ignorantia juris non excusat

To no one in particular...

You can always use "Hanlon's Razor" as your defence
and hope they don't counter with "Grey's Law".

@Armelline said:
http://neverpedia.com/pan/Ownership_of_the_Peter_Pan_works

How is this more authoritative than the citations directly from the US patent office a couple of posts up?

Armelline

@Hopscotch said:
How is this more authoritative than the citations directly from the US patent office a couple of posts up?

The patent linked doesn't apply to video games, and this page specifically addresses the fuzziness of the issue.

Hopscotch

@Armelline said:
The patent linked doesn't apply to video games, and this page specifically addresses the fuzziness of the issue.

Maybe this will unfuzz things.

Serial Number   78911856

IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Camcorders; cameras; cellular telephone accessories, namely, converters; compact disc players; computer hardware; computer mouse; digital cameras; headphones; MP3 players; sunglasses; video cameras; computer game programs; computer game discs; video game cartridges; video game discs; mouse pads.

Owner   (REGISTRANT) Disney Enterprises, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 500 South Buena Vista Street Burbank CALIFORNIA 91521

Disney Trademarks cover everything from books to soaps, beverages to action toys.

motorcycle boy

Well Apple ended up not liking the titles so I had to change them. Now they will be "The Dentist of Oz" and "The Neverland Dentist." As long as they don't reject those too that is!

gingagaming

That's a shame @dreichelt‌ I thought you struck gold with public domain ideas.

motorcycle boy

@gingagaming said:
That's a shame dreichelt‌ I thought you struck gold with public domain ideas.

Yeah I know! Well I think the good thing is most everyone will still recognize the title and characters. I have another dentist game "Robin Hood Dentist" and thankfully they didn't have issues with the title so I think that one can do really well. It got rejected though for some bug issues that I'm looking into. Actually the only different is that I used GS RC for that version. I also have a doctor game coming up. Can't wait to show that to you guys!

gingagaming

@dreichelt said:
"Robin Hood Dentist"

I live 20 miles from Sherwood Forest & often thought about using Robin Hood in a game. To be honest I have a great name and game idea for it. But as it's one of about 10 in my head at the moment! I was unsure how well known Robin Hood is worldwide. I thought it was just a British thing....

unbeatenpixel

for turkish same Robin Hood.

StormyStudio

You'll want to check the latest news, but I'm pretty sure sherlock Holmes is now in the public domain. As long as you don't use the side on siloutte with the hat and pipe.

Someone recently one a court case.

Like I say, check it if you want to use it, as its probably still slight dodgy ground.